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#1 Player1

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Posted 09 January 2003 - 10:11 PM

I know the old times from Safedisk 1, you had to run a program before you could start your backup cd by that time because bad sectors can't be copied.

I thought now that RMPS is working could you write such an emulation thing that is started before the game runs and emulates the protection without the need of having any emulation installed?

Sorry for my bad language, I hape you can understand what I mean.

#2 VLuka

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Posted 10 January 2003 - 08:00 AM

You mean writing emu part to CD? It will be useless because could be easily blacklisted.

#3 Zarathustra

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Posted 10 January 2003 - 01:16 PM

I think he meant some kind of "launcher" on your HD.

You start the launcher.exe, emulation becomes activated, and then you run the game. Quit the launcher.exe and emulation will be gone like it has never been there.

It's just the wish to not install an emulation software but emulate "ad-hoc" via that launcher.exe...

At least that's how I understood this. rolleyes.gif


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#4 Smabbage

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Posted 10 January 2003 - 03:44 PM

Sounds like what he wants is Daemon Tools. :whistle:

#5 Zarathustra

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Posted 10 January 2003 - 03:55 PM

I had the same idea, but then again, D-Tools also need to be installed and he emphasized that it should NOT need to be installed...

#6 Phoenix

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Posted 10 January 2003 - 09:28 PM

Personaly i feel this is more for being able to make copys of games for other people... afterall if you have made a backup using RMPS then you already have Alcohol installed!!!!

#7 stupidass

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Posted 22 January 2003 - 11:37 AM

@ Phoenix:it could also mean (as for eg. in my case) ,installing and running the game on another can than the one where you did your back-up.

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Posted 22 January 2003 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (stupidass @ Jan 22 2003, 12:57 PM)
@ Phoenix:it could also mean (as for eg. in my case) ,installing and running the game on another can than the one where you did your back-up.

Use D-tools. Why don't you want to install a little program (less than 5MB) on the other pc?

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Posted 22 January 2003 - 04:43 PM

well, blindwrite as this kind of launcher, that you can download separatly, without the need of installing the rest of the software. Would be nice to have such a sofware that works with alcohol... by the way, may the launcher works also with image created via alcohol (I did not try since y don't have this kind of protected cd).

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Posted 22 January 2003 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (lio @ Jan 22 2003, 06:03 PM)
well, blindwrite as this kind of launcher, that you can download separatly, without the need of installing the rest of the software. Would be nice to have such a sofware that works with alcohol... by the way, may the launcher works also with image created via alcohol (I did not try since y don't have this kind of protected cd).

Blindwrite launcher doesn't work with alcohol-RMPS cds.
The unofficial alcohol launcher is D-Tools.
Personaly i think this is for being able to make copys of games for other people..., as says Phoenix

#11 lio

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Posted 22 January 2003 - 08:00 PM

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The unofficial alcohol launcher is D-Tools.
Personaly i think this is for being able to make copys of games for other people..., as says Phoenix


so following your thinking, d-tools is also for people that runs illegal copy so should not exist...
and why not also saying that alcohol can make copy for others so should not exist or be prohibited by law...
don't tell me that you believe that all users of alcohol are using this software just for personnal backup !!!
I think that it's a bit hypocrital from developers to be moralistic when a users ask for a question (not stupid at all)

#12 luciano

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Posted 22 January 2003 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE (lio @ Jan 22 2003, 09:20 PM)
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The unofficial alcohol launcher is D-Tools.
Personaly i think this is for being able to make copys of games for other people..., as says Phoenix


so following your thinking, d-tools is also for people that runs illegal copy so should not exist...
and why not also saying that alcohol can make copy for others so should not exist or be prohibited by law...
don't tell me that you believe that all users of alcohol are using this software just for personnal backup !!!
I think that it's a bit hypocrital from developers to be moralistic when a users ask for a question (not stupid at all)

Sure, not all alcohol users use alcohol to make personal backups, this doesn't means that the developer should help these people to break the laws. Launcher for other computers help this kind of people and is unless for pleople that doesn't break the laws.

This is what I think.

#13 Zarathustra

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Posted 22 January 2003 - 08:20 PM

Yup.

Alcohol is capable of easily making copies of protected games. It is obvious that this can lead to illegal activities such as copying for other people or using copies of games one doesn't own.

This could theoretically mean that the developers of Alc support illegal activities. At least in germany this can be legally punished. So they have a disclaimer (as do Daemon-Tools) that forbids using Alc for illegal copies. Of course this is no guarantee but Alc is ONLY meant for legal stuff, what people finally do with it is their concern.

If the support staff helped people that obviously asked for help in illegal questions, the above-mentioned disclaimer would obviously not be meant serious so they cannot do this.


I think it is perfectly understandable that support cannot be given in such situations, and I don't think anyone should complain about this. You simply should not search for help on an official support forum of whatever kind.


Just my two cents...

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#14 Phoenix

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Posted 23 January 2003 - 07:28 PM

DITO

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Posted 24 January 2003 - 01:36 AM

Most things can be used for both legal and illegal purposes. A carving knife can be used both for carving the Sunday roast and also for stabbing people. The latter use, however, generally isn't encouraged. rolleyes.gif

So you really can't ask for nor expect support for the use of alcohol (or anything else for that matter) for illegal purposes. wink.gif




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