New 4400+ X2
#21
Posted 11 April 2006 - 05:42 PM
#22
Posted 11 April 2006 - 11:29 PM
#23
Posted 12 April 2006 - 09:00 AM
#24
Posted 12 April 2006 - 11:57 AM
I would go for a 19" LCD or +21" CRT.
Using a ViewSonic P220f CRT at home (22", 20" visible) at 1600*1200, don't know how one could cope with 1024*768 only some years ago..
Unfortunatly stuck with a 17" LCD at work running 1280*1024.. But I agree, they are great at displaying text with ClearType and functions like that.
#25
Posted 12 April 2006 - 05:03 PM
Now take my opteron 165 for example... it ships @1.8ghz which is painfully slow by todays standards. Overclock that beast to 2.8ghz and she runs like a deamon.
And that 3800+ is a manchester... and has half the on chip cache of the 4000+ and the 4400+ (toledo cores). Cache can be a big factor in certaint apps.
#26
Posted 12 April 2006 - 10:20 PM
Sounds good. However, buying a 21" one is a little bit over my capability.
Edited by MaLing, 12 April 2006 - 10:20 PM.
#27
Posted 13 April 2006 - 06:44 AM
Now take my opteron 165 for example... it ships @1.8ghz which is painfully slow by todays standards. Overclock that beast to 2.8ghz and she runs like a deamon.
And that 3800+ is a manchester... and has half the on chip cache of the 4000+ and the 4400+ (toledo cores). Cache can be a big factor in certaint apps.
So I've been planning an upgrade as well, but my system is a little older (XP 2800+ & 1024 RAM) Does a jump to single core 64 or DC 64 show that much improvement over the XP Generation?? I mean, I've read the reviews, and seen the stats, but does it 'feel' faster, or more responsive?
#28
Posted 13 April 2006 - 08:52 AM
I remeber reading a report that the next jump in core tech will go to a 4 core die. That is going to be killer!
#29
Posted 13 April 2006 - 09:45 AM
#30
Posted 13 April 2006 - 10:26 AM
Jito463, Nice choice btw. I'm not much of an overclocker, but spending tax returns on high-end computer parts really sounds nice.
Edited by ChiefNuts, 14 April 2006 - 05:30 AM.
#31
Posted 13 April 2006 - 12:48 PM
The San Deigo has 1MB L2 cache... not 128K
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103539
64+64 is the L1 cache... 1MB is L2 cache
#32
Posted 14 April 2006 - 05:30 AM
I wonder how much extra performance 2/4/8... cores give if the RAM speed does not improve much. Nowadays the mulitipier is already 12/14/18... times, it is meaningless to me...
#33
Posted 14 April 2006 - 05:33 AM
As far as ram speed goes, the AMD's haven't been as bandwidth hungry as the P4 is. That and with multiple cores, or i guess it would be multiple sockets, AMD really shines because of the integrated memory controller and the coherent HyperTransport links between the processors. So every physical processor has a dual channel connection to system memory, and then a link to the other processors. Very efficient, and scalable. This is why i'm sad to see AMD start using DDR2, because they don't need the bandwidth, the chips like the latency more, but your completely right, there isn't much of a performance increase once you get to 2+ cores on a desktop system. Maybe CAD and workstations using intense graphics, but not the average user.
Edited by ChiefNuts, 14 April 2006 - 05:49 AM.
#34
Posted 14 April 2006 - 06:29 AM
Edited by MaLing, 14 April 2006 - 06:30 AM.
#35
Posted 14 April 2006 - 07:31 AM
It's part of another post I had....
http://forum.alcohol...showtopic=23426
As far as the multi-multi cores, they are still way off for marketing but for the average computer user, we wont need them till we grow a second set of eyes, ears, arms, and be able to multi task our brains to control 2 games like fear at once.
#36
Posted 14 April 2006 - 10:05 AM
That's a very good point. After a certain point progress is not really substancial. Xbox 360 will take the place of Xbox and Playstation 3 the place of Playstation 2 but will there be any visible difference? However not the 3D revolution that the 32 bit consoles started when they were released. I don't think that after Playstation and Saturn there was real progress( except for the more polygons in our television screens), which I think was inevitable since there was not a 4th dimension to be introduced... The good thing is that even today my Saturn is a decent game playing console, which wasn't true for the 8 bit and 16 bit consoles after some years of their release. Also my Pentium III desctop will probably last must longer than any i486 did.
#37
Posted 16 April 2006 - 06:26 PM
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