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SPTD problems-

Started by Trial User_Guest_* , Dec 02 2006 05:45 PM

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#1 Trial User_Guest_*

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Posted 02 December 2006 - 05:45 PM

Hi, I tried to install the SPTD drivers for the latest version of alcohol 52 , but it said I must reboot the computer. I did so and ran the installer again (after waiting for some time for it to launch itself on startup)- and I got the exact same "you must restart" -so I did, and nothing happened.

Here's some background on my computer-my technically minded sister at the time owned it as the administrator and then gave it to me, with some stuff already on it. Therefore, I don't know if I have any kernel debuggers on it that may be conflicting with the installation. As for reformatting, its not really a realistic option for me at this point either.

I was wondering A) how to correct this SPTD driver installation problem and

if the problem has to do with kernel debuggers, if there is a software program out there that will scan my hard drive for any strings or keywords related to a number of popular debuggers..since I have no clue how to use them or which are popular. Also, C), where can I find older versions to download of Alcohol 52 percent without the SPTD layer (I have an older version of daemon tools without it but cannot find any old versions of alcohol on this site).

Thanks for any help on this issue in advance.

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#2 ptolomeus3

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 04:57 AM

http://trial.alcohol-soft.com/en/

Look for the Win98/ME version. They are without the SPTD

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#3 Charalambos

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 10:16 AM

You can also try to install the latest version of Alcohol in safe mode( if you have Windows 2000 or newer).

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#4 Trial User_Guest_*

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 02:44 PM

I've tried installing with Safe mode previously (I forgot to mention this) but it did not work. Also, I don't think the 98/ME versions would work so well on XP. Ive found a working older version, but for newer games I would need newer protections. I know there is an INI file to add in protections to the Database, but for the newer ones or less well known protections, I wouldn't know what data to input for them. It would be nice however, if the SPTD would actually work.

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#5 Charalambos

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 11:44 AM

Except for the RMPS v2 for Safedisk there isn't anything really new about the copy protections support. You can use the existing datatypes in your version to deal with newer versions of copy protections( e.g. Safedisk 2/3 for safedisk 4). As for the 1.9.5.3105 version of Alcohol that is reserved for the Windows 98/ME, it works on Windows XP too with the main difference that it doesn't include SPTD as ptolomeus stated.

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#6 Trial User_Guest_*

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 09:55 PM

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood you. I'll try that version then, thanks a lot!

On the subject of copy protections, it seems like you have the most commonly used ones covered. However, what should I do if I run into games or audio CD's with unusual or not widely used protection methods, such as:

Alcatraz
AlphaROM/AlphaDVD
CD-Lock
CD-Protect
CopyLock/CodeLok
CrypKey
DBB
DiscGuard
DVD-cops
FADE (degrades game performance subtly over time for a few games)
HexaLock
LockBlocks
PhenoProtect
ProtectCD/Protect DVD/Protect DVD-video
Roxxe
SafeCast
SmartCD/SmartED/SmartE
SoftLock
SVK Protector (SVKP)
TAGES
The Copy Protected CD/Bongle

Would all those be fine just using the "general CD protection " database method of making the ISO?

More info available about those protections at http://www.cdmediawo...otections.shtml, sounds like some of them are quite hard to make copies of. I am just a newbie and I'm not probably telling you anything you don't know..nor am I trying to say I know more than you or anything...I am just wondering what to do about those protections - is there a general method that will work on most of them, or do they each need a seperate method, if so what is that?

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#7 Jito463

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 02:05 AM

QUOTE (Guest @ Dec 5 2006, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Alcatraz
AlphaROM/AlphaDVD
CD-Lock
CD-Protect
CopyLock/CodeLok
CrypKey
DBB
DiscGuard
LockBlocks
PhenoProtect
Roxxe
SafeCast
SoftLock
SVK Protector (SVKP)
The Copy Protected CD/Bongle

I've never seen or heard of these, but that's a good thing as it means that you'll probably never run into them, either.

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DVD-cops

Same as CD-Cops, for which there is a profile in Alcohol. Just read using DPM extraction and it should work fine.

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FADE (degrades game performance subtly over time for a few games)

This isn't a disc copy protection. It works with another copy protection to secure the executable.

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HexaLock

This is a commercial copy protection only found on expensive software packages that I'm aware of. To my knowledge, no games use this.

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ProtectCD/Protect DVD/Protect DVD-video

There is a ProtectCD profile in Alcohol. I'm not sure about this copy protection on DVD.

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SmartCD/SmartED/SmartE

Essentially just a Safedisc clone by MS (in fact, MS designed Safedisc and then sold the rights to Sony/Macrovision).

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TAGES

Unfortunately, there is no software available that can rip Tages discs. DTools Pro - when it comes out - will have this capability. But not a lot of software uses Tages anyway, so it's not a huge issue.

I wouldn't worry too much about copy protections you *might* run into. Best thing would be to come ask for help if you *DO* run into one of them, or a copy protection you can't figure out how to make work.

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#8 evlncrn8

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Posted 06 December 2006 - 06:33 AM

QUOTE (Jito463 @ Dec 6 2006, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

SmartCD/SmartED/SmartE

Essentially just a Safedisc clone by MS (in fact, MS designed Safedisc and then sold the rights to
Sony/Macrovision).

really? because the code in safedisc and securom are quite different, they even use different checking methods

AlphaROM/AlphaDVD

last time i looked it was settec alpharom... which was more or less an svkp protected executable with a cdcheck... nothing 'interesting', and i think clonecd worked on it (was a long time ago) so alcohol could probably do it without breaking a sweat