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Poll: Windows XP vs Windows Vista

Is Windows Vista essentially better than Windows XP?

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#21 ChiefNuts

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE (Jito463 @ Feb 14 2007, 05:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The retail versions contain the x86 and x64 versions on the same disc from my understanding. The OEM versions are either x86 or x64, however I believe the key is valid for either version (you just have to choose which version you're buying on the disc).


All Retail versions of Vista come with an x86 version on the disc with instructions to order an x64 version on MS site. The only exception is Ultimate, it comes with both discs in the box.

You can order the x86 disc here:
http://www.microsoft...ia/default.mspx

Edited by ChiefNuts, 16 February 2007 - 09:55 AM.


#22 Jito463

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 12:49 PM

Oh, is that what it is. I've been trying to find out for sure, but couldn't get any real information (and there was no way I was buying a retail version just to find out).

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 10:09 AM

Windows ME was a nightmare, specially changed commands just for it and it having its own way of doing things. XP and 98 are tied IMO as an OS goes with Vista being below until it matures or I find a need/desire to upgrade to a Direct X10 HDCP capable gfx card.

#24 randomevent

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:20 PM

I'm already using Vista x64 as my main OS...had XP32 on here for compatibility but I never loaded it so I just canned it.

You know, I never expect much out of an OS. So I'm never disappointed. It does what it needs to. I got it free, so I didn't have to think about getting it.

In Vistas case, some of the most compelling things about it are things you won't even notice at first. Like being able to use the searchbox in the start menu to go to control panel items, and stuff like that.

If they hadn't ditched hardware audio for DS3D, I'd say it's 100% recommended, but that's a serious crimp...I'm sure they had good reasons for doing it considering the new audio engine, but that doesn't help me any.

I would definately say wait a few months for the driver situation to stabilize, but it's a very worthwhile upgrade.

#25 ChiefNuts

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 08:24 AM

QUOTE (randomevent @ Feb 20 2007, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm already using Vista x64 as my main OS...had XP32 on here for compatibility but I never loaded it so I just canned it.

You know, I never expect much out of an OS. So I'm never disappointed. It does what it needs to. I got it free, so I didn't have to think about getting it.

In Vistas case, some of the most compelling things about it are things you won't even notice at first. Like being able to use the searchbox in the start menu to go to control panel items, and stuff like that.

If they hadn't ditched hardware audio for DS3D, I'd say it's 100% recommended, but that's a serious crimp...I'm sure they had good reasons for doing it considering the new audio engine, but that doesn't help me any.

I would definately say wait a few months for the driver situation to stabilize, but it's a very worthwhile upgrade.


Yeah, that's the best way i've heard it. Never expect much from an OS. lol. The software DirectSound3D was really dissapointing. If you own a creativelabs x-fi or audigy, they are 'supposed' to be releasing their alchemy drivers (a wrapper that translates ds3d calls to openAL) soon for the audigy. Currently, the x-fi is supported.

http://forums.creati...message.id=5009

It seems to work fairly decent with my setup, but I still switch to XP when playing anything... So vista is more of a sandbox for testing.

Edited by ChiefNuts, 21 February 2007 - 08:25 AM.


#26 MaLing

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 12:06 AM

Document from Creative:
Creative ALchemy Project

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there are hundreds of older PC games that support DirectSound3D and EAX technology...will sound empty and lifeless on Vista.

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As most DS3D games only enable 3D Audio (and EAX) if a hardware accelerator is present, most of these games will be reduced to a stereo output.


Why does Microsoft do that? blink.gif

#27 ChiefNuts

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 07:29 PM

MaLing, This isn't the first time microsoft has killed a great audio technology. They buried Aureal A3D (With the help of creative) A3D was such a better 3D positional technology than EAX still is to this day (actually, i believe that parts of their A3D 2.0 was incorporated into EAX latter on. The sad thing is that appearantly audio isn't something that people care about much with all the integrated audio codecs installed on MB's now adays. I for 1 have an X-FI in my XP machine, and still think that it's 120% better than anything integrated. (90% better if you include the bloated software.)

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 11:20 PM

But the strange thing is: DirectSound and Direct3D were Microsoft's products. Microsoft wants to bury others companies' products, it is understandable; but why does it kill its products which were parts of DirectX?

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 10:06 AM

Maling, as far as I can understand the whole story is about DirectSound3D, not DirectSound( at least in general) or Direct3D. Personally I didn't even knew that such a thing as DirectSound3D existed and I still don't know what is its exact relation and differences with the "common" DirectSound. unsure.gif

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 02:20 PM

I think they made the changes mainly for DRM, HD, blueray, I had to go back to Windows XP x64 so I could use my Sunfire Theatre Grand Pre amp.
SPDIF would only give PCM Audio, no DTS, Dolby Digital, etc. Movies and music sounded flat. So I will stick with Windows XP x64 for now.
going to spend my money adding 16gb memory.

Two things I will never buy Vista and Sound Blaster.

Got one of these - Onkyo SE-200 PCI 7.1ch Sound Card.

#31 ChiefNuts

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 02:52 PM

QUOTE (MaLing @ Feb 23 2007, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But the strange thing is: DirectSound and Direct3D were Microsoft's products. Microsoft wants to bury others companies' products, it is understandable; but why does it kill its products which were parts of DirectX?


I agree with zombiekil on the DRM just. Just like with the protected video path, it's more likely they did the same with the audio path as well. Gotta please the RIAA & MPAA.

I really think that they believe they were doing the gaming community a favor by using the CPU to create sound effects. Directsound and directsound3d are their, but in software form only. no hardware acelleration. I believe they made the switch because it would make it easier to port between the xbox 360 and the PC. All i know is that if you have a direct3d sound game, the 3D enhancements like EAX, doesn't work anymore. OpenAL still access the hardware and provides all of thoes 3D features.

Creative shows the changes in great detail on their forum.

http://forums.creati...message.id=1694

Edited by ChiefNuts, 24 February 2007 - 03:03 PM.


#32 Iluro80

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 06:06 AM

The cheapest version of Vista is only 32bits ( i installed one about a week ago).
As it seems, some people is having problems with VISTA and a DVD-WRITER installed... in loging window, if you wait about 15 seconds, a nice blue screen appear xD (i've had one of these computers today... it seems that the first time appeared after rebooting for a BurningSoft installation).
Today i've had to install XP in a new Acer Laptop with VISTA... xD they bought a new licience and throw the VISTA one xD

I'm really annoyed with so many confirmations for doing everything :|

I think soon i will install PcLinuxOS 2k7 on my lapton and having the XP in the main computer smile.gif I didnt like VISTA right now.... who knows in the future..

Edited by Iluro80, 27 February 2007 - 06:42 AM.





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