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[BigTy]

Robbo not to say anything bad but thats like saying that a CEO should answer phone in a call center IT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN. That call the shot we carry them out its ALWAYS worked that way sence i dont know when moddern war. Tron is right its funny a man had Scuds but for years has said ooo weell ummmm i have no such thing. but when the dooty hit the fan the scuds come fling. bottom line he lied we know he lied. and not we have to take him out. Trom had another good point look how many times we get attacted for no reason. helping little places i would never have cared about unless i was in the army. Butt as soon as WE the US want help with a place we get CRAP from BMW land and Wine Place aka Germany and France. get real thats bs and many people know it. i joked about it but the truth is they get good Oil Prices from Irac and they didnt want to mess up any relations they had with them. so to cover there but they come up with oo umm if they have any camical weapons and use them then we will support you. not to be funny the only support we need from the is for them to send us cars and and bad smelling women when we are done fighting. thats a joke.

WE are tring to be responcible and not kill inocent people but if we ask you hey people leave your homes for a little bit and return when we are done we will help you rebuild and you say no and want to watch the fighting from your living rooms and a piece of a building hits your house dont look stupid becuase your loved one died. this is war not a movie on the lifetime movie network. I mean to hear people not you robbo just things i heard on TV. people say all the US wants is the oil heck we could have ended this thing in a day or two toss down a few huge bombs killed all the cities and came through with the ground troops to mop up the rest and blam once again 93oct for .99. and thats a fact. ok im dont venting everyone have a good day pray for EVERYONE and lets hope that we all can call this off and talk it out becuase thats what we all want anyway. have a good one :woot: :ninja2:

[Tron]

I will not post here on this topic again. It will only lead to hurt feelings because right now it just pisses me off that there are people in this world who would let this guy keep going until he drops a nuke. Don't you see that if we choose to do nothing we will have even more people die? At least if they die now they will die for a reason, and that is protecting the people in our countries. Enough said, as far as I am concerned this sort of thread does not belong in a sight like ours because of the volatile nature of the post. If our Admins decide this post is ok, then so be it.........People are going to have hurt feelings. This is my last reply on this post, so do not bother to try and sway my opinion as I wont be reading this.... Enough said............ :no:

[BigTy]

Update the war didnt bother my NCAA tournament all is well. anyone want to come over and watch it with me on the 57 HDTV of goodness . :woot: :ninja2: PS Lets kiss and make up i need those plug-ins SOON your late









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Edited by BigTy, 22 March 2003 - 03:17 PM.

[Robbo]

What some here dont understand its not the fact that Action has been taken its how, what gives the Bush Administartion the right to Dictate what happens in the world also what doesnt seem to be understood the position that Iraq was in was because of Countires like the USA, Britian, Germany, France where were all the cries when Hussien gassed Iranians during the Iran/Iraq War.

I to have served my country but think that desicions on this sort of scale need to be done with everyone and not just a few, in the first Gulf War this was the case also after September the 11th, why couldnt all the countries in the un sit down and set a timetable that had to be met by iraq supported by everyone and if this wasnt the case then take action and here i am not talking about years im talking about months, at the end of the day Saddam Hussien has achieved more than he could ever hope for by splitting Europe and the European / American Relationships and probably the biggest question of all what is going to happen when the dust settles.

[BigTy]

Dude we did that. and he was playing around. and to spit in our faces what missle does he have that he said I DONT HAVE or have had in years. Some people you cant talk to. and this is one of them :woot: :ninja2:

[Robbo]

Dude we did that. and he was playing around. and to spit in our faces what missle does he have that he said I DONT HAVE or have had in years. Some people you cant talk to. and this is one of them :woot: :ninja2:

Know what your right the man should be removed with that i do not have a problem, with the way it has been done i have one and not only the Bush Administration is to blame France, Germany Russia etc could have worked together with America to find a compromise that everyone could could live with and then taken steps to remove him.

One question Irael has been ignoring UN Resolutions for years and also have Nuclear capabilities when are they going to get forciblly dis-armed you cant have it both ways it needs to be the same for all.

[BigTy]

DING WE HAVE A WINNER!! and i Agree if we do it to One lets line up whos next. if we want to make it even then your so right. and i hope we line someone else up that has played the system. now lets all hold hands light a candle and sing welcome to the jungle. hahahahaha Robbo empty your PM box your over your limit. :woot: :ninja2:

[pokopiko]

Saddam was the most hated man on earth... until yesterday.
And of course it does not take one to be illiterate to have bad advisors and making bad decisions, but it certainly helps a lot.
Cowboy Dubya has made a grave mistake with unpredictable consequences. As himself likes to say, "God bless America"- although I don't think god will be willing to dive in such deep sh...

[Netman (R.I.P)]

Saddam was the most hated man on earth... until yesterday.
And of course it does not take one to be illiterate to have bad advisors and making bad decisions, but it certainly helps a lot.
Cowboy Dubya has made a grave mistake with unpredictable consequences. As himself likes to say, "God bless America"- although I don't think god will be willing to dive in such deep sh...

hahaha!!!

i've said it before and i'll say it again poko, it scares hell out of me every time i have to agree with you on anything political.

on another note, i deeply respect those who have differing opinions from mine and i understand where they are coming from in that regard. as an admin i'm also pleased that such a controversial thread has been able to continue because everyone is stating their feelings in such polite and professional manners.

you won't find many forums today where this thread could exist without it becoming a flaming contest. that says a lot for the people that make up this forum. let's hope it continues this way.

[Robbo]

Saddam was the most hated man on earth... until yesterday.
And of course it does not take one to be illiterate to have bad advisors and making bad decisions, but it certainly helps a lot.
Cowboy Dubya has made a grave mistake with unpredictable consequences. As himself likes to say, "God bless America"- although I don't think god will be willing to dive in such deep sh...

hahaha!!!

i've said it before and i'll say it again poko, it scares hell out of me every time i have to agree with you on anything political.

on another note, i deeply respect those who have differing opinions from mine and i understand where they are coming from in that regard. as an admin i'm also pleased that such a controversial thread has been able to continue because everyone is stating their feelings in such polite and professional manners.

you won't find many forums today where this thread could exist without it becoming a flaming contest. that says a lot for the people that make up this forum. let's hope it continues this way.

Netman there i must agree on a couple of forums if you dont agree with the american view of things you are automaticcly labeled Anti-American from some, with subjects like this it can easily become as you say a flaming contest.

[tenndevil]

When countries are named in my post it is directed at their Government and it's leaders not at any one individual

Name one thing France had done for America since WWII, you can't, All these nations that were against the war acted the same way before WWII and it gave them Hitler, not only did we jump in and help, yes after some prodding, but we learned our lesson back then we are not going to wait this time. We helped rebuild those nations and where were those nations when the World Trade Centers were hit? where was the support, are they helping us rebuild? I think not. Did they even care? no they didn't. It had nothing to do with them.
It's funny you guys against the Bush admin. never stood up and hollered vehemently and Hateful against Clinton when He went to Kosovo, Bosnia, Haiti and Ramalya without UN approval or when he bombed Iraq in 98, you remained quiet then so why not try now? Because you are the ones with double standards. May be they should have just let Saddam build and grow his arsenal maybe he would have hit your backyard and then again maybe not, but I can see you are willing to take that chance. He has shown disregard for human life and has used chemicals and killed his own people, even now as towns are liberated we are learning that when the UN refused to remove him from power the first time (yes the UN, this worthless org. choice) he killed thousands that thought they were free and he even used gas to do it, at least thats what I heard this morning. War is never a good thing, but if you break the law you pay a fine or goto jail, why should this be any different from others. Maybe the think Saddam is a more immedite threat, and for 12 years they tried to work with him nothing worked, and yes Saddam has been tied to terrorists, alot may not know this because their news is filtered, did France run a news story about them being tied to Hussein and diverting funds, did Germany run a story about them selling parts that could be used for making nuclear weapons? They don't want to help with the war, but they definately want to be there to help after. I hope they are left out of the loop, they had their chance why should they reap any benefits?

[tkam111]

Saddam has used chemicals in the past. When? In the war with Iran. Guess who has sold these chemical weapons to Saddam. They who know excactly what they have sold are afraid that he might use them if he still have them.
Is he a dictator in the area. Of cource he is, but just look at the map. Do you know what governments have all countries in the area?
Just undertand one thing. At least in his country the women are allowed to go to school and they are not killed with stones when they are raped and get pregnant things who are conciderd natural and just in nearly all other countries they surround Iraq. The allied countries!!
UN has never stopped US and the rest allies from getting him down back in 1991. Why did they stop?
In the last 12 years he stayd (relatively!!!) quite peacefull in his corner. Why do they hit him now dividing the whole world?
Even now after more than 1000 missiles he has got he doesnt used not even one of the guns they now they have sold him.
Don't you wonder why him and why now?
Just think.....

[pokopiko]

This war has a very clear objective: breaking up OPEC which was lately pumping all the money in non-US investments and redrawing the Middle East Map (all that with the analogous profit, of course). I beleived that only fanatics and aliens would buy the anti-terrorist fairytale that cheaply, sadly enough it seems that I'm wrong.

[Pappy]

This is enough already!! Time to end this topic.

[BigTy]

Pappy why if we want to talk about a topic we are allowed to talk about it. noone is fighting a goup of grown men talking about would issues. :woot: :ninja2:

[Phoenix]

I feel that the longer this war goes on, and the more reports of casualties on all sides come in, there is a possibility that the tone of posts in this topic could get out of hand, like some supposedly!! peaceful demonstrations have that are going on around the world. whilst to date the posters in this topic have only given there opinions, I feel that some people may start taking offence, so I have decided to close this topic for the good of the forum.