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#1 Trial User_Rido_*

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 01:27 PM

Hi,

I try to install the trial version of Alcohol (1.9.5.4212) but after the first question regarding SPTD (or something) it tells me that Windows has to be rebooted. After the reboot the installation starts again, but the reboot didn't solve anything as the installer requests to reboot again on the exact same point. Even in safe-mode it keeps asking for a reboot.

As I am unable to post an system-report, I hope the following information is sufficient, otherwise feel free to ask.

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+
MB: Asus A8N-E
MEM: 4x Dane-Elec 512 Mb
VC: Asus ES7600GS Silent (Nvidea)
Sound1: Onboard
Sound2: Soundblaster Audigy 4 pro
DVD-RW1: Sony DRU-500A
DVD-RW2: Sony DRU-700A
DVD-RW3: Plextor PX-755A
Multimedia: Pinnacle 700-PCI capturecard

Programs starting automatically [shortened 'startup-list' listing]
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Autostart folders:
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[Startup (1)]
desktop.ini

[User Startup (1)]
desktop.ini

[Common Startup (3)]
Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk
desktop.ini
Logitech SetPoint.lnk

[User Common Startup (3)]
Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk
desktop.ini
Logitech SetPoint.lnk
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Services:

[NT Services (49)]
Application Experience Lookup Service = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Ati HotKey Poller = C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
ATI Smart = C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2saag.exe
Automatic Updates = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
avast! Antivirus = "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe"
avast! iAVS4 Control Service = "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe"
COM+ Event System = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Computer Browser = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Cryptographic Services = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Cyberlink RichVideo Service(CRVS) = "C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\Shared files\RichVideo.exe"
DCOM Server Process Launcher = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k DcomLaunch
DHCP Client = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService
Distributed Link Tracking Client = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
DNS Client = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService
Error Reporting Service = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k WinErr
Event Log = C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
Help and Support = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
IPSEC Services = C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
Logical Disk Manager = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
NVIDIA Display Driver Service = C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc64.exe
Performance Logs and Alerts = C:\WINDOWS\system32\smlogsvc.exe
Plug and Play = C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
Print Spooler = C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
Protected Storage = C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k rpcss
Remote Registry = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
Secondary Logon = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Security Accounts Manager = C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
Security Center = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Server = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Shell Hardware Detection = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
System Event Notification = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
System Restore Service = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Task Scheduler = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
Themes = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Universal Plug and Play Device Host = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
VMware Authorization Service = C:\Program Files (x86)\VMware\VMware Workstation\vmware-authd.exe
VMware DHCP Service = C:\WINDOWS\system32\vmnetdhcp.exe
VMware NAT Service = C:\WINDOWS\system32\vmnat.exe
VMware Virtual Mount Manager Extended = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VMware\VMware Virtual Image Editing\vmount2.exe"
WebClient = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
Windows Audio = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k imgsvc
Windows Management Instrumentation = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Windows Time = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
Wireless Configuration = C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Workstation = C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs

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Registry 'Run' keys:

[User Run]
BgMonitor_{79662E04-7C6C-4d9f-84C7-88D8A56B10AA} = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Ahead\lib\NMBgMonitor.exe"
Creative Detector = C:\Program Files (x86)\Creative\MediaSource\Detector\CTDetect.exe /R
CTFMON.EXE = C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
RemoteCenter = C:\Program Files (x86)\Creative\SBAudigy4\Entertainment Center\RcMan.exe
updateMgr = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AdobeUpdateManager.exe" AcRdB7_0_7 -reboot 1

[System Run]
AudioDrvEmulator = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Creative\Shared Files\Module Loader\DLLML.exe" -1 AudioDrvEmulator "C:\Program Files (x86)\Creative\Shared Files\Module Loader\Audio Emulator\AudDrvEm.dll"
avast! = C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
CTDVDDET = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Creative\SBAudigy4\DVDAudio\CTDVDDET.EXE"
CTHelper = CTHELPER.EXE
CTSysVol = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Creative\SBAudigy4\Surround Mixer\CTSysVol.exe" /r
EEventManager = "C:\Program Files (x86)\EPSON\Creativity Suite\Event Manager\EEventManager.exe"
iTunesHelper = "C:\Program Files (x86)\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
LanguageShortcut = "C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\PowerDVD\Language\Language.exe"
NeroFilterCheck = C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\NeroCheck.exe
QuickTime Task = "C:\Program Files (x86)\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
RemoteControl = "C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe"
SunJavaUpdateSched = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.5.0_06\bin\jusched.exe"
Syslog =
UpdReg = C:\WINDOWS\UpdReg.EXE
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The system runs Windows XP Profesional x64 and is up-to-date with Windows service-packs and hotfixes, according to MSBA 2.0, but the drivers can be a lil' old though.

#2 zamiel

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:07 PM

You should be able to open up Alcohol from its installation directory to get the system report before you click reboot. This may shed some light on the conflicting drivers.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (zamiel @ Aug 16 2006, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You should be able to open up Alcohol from its installation directory to get the system report before you click reboot. This may shed some light on the conflicting drivers.


Hi There,

I'm having the same problem. It just keep wanting to reboot and when it boots back up, it just tells you to rebbot again to continue the install and then it starts all over again.
It does not even have an install directory to look for any reports.

Whats going on ?

Thanks for any help

Charley Andreasen

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 01:17 PM

Hi again,

Thanks for your quick response. But unfortunately there is no executable in the temporary installation-directory. It contains the following files:
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Volume in drive C is W64
Volume Serial Number is 94DA-2663

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Temp\nsw3.tmp

18-08-2006 20:25 <DIR> .
18-08-2006 20:25 <DIR> ..
18-08-2006 20:25 0 a.txt
18-08-2006 20:19 234 alcsetup.ini
18-08-2006 20:19 12.800 InstallOptions.dll
18-08-2006 20:19 532 ioSpecial.ini
20-01-2006 05:47 25.820 modern-header.bmp
20-01-2006 10:03 154.542 modern-wizard.bmp
18-08-2006 20:19 35.840 setuphlp.dll
7 File(s) 229.768 bytes
2 Dir(s) 410.492.928 bytes free


Or, if you meant the program-directory I have to dissapoint you 'cos setup doesn't get that far that it asks for a directory name and extracts files to that location.

Maybe you can send me the program or have a suggestion of an similar tool of another brand that is able to provide the same information you need.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 07:45 AM

I am also having the same problem
heres my setup
Winxp 64 Professional
AMD64 X2 4400+
A8N-SLI Premium
2 X Corsair 1GB's
2 X ASUS n7800 GTX's
Soundblaster X-Fi Fata1ty
SONY DVD RW DRU-800A

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 08:23 AM

if you check version # of the trial you will notice that is an older version than the latest that supports x64, but i could be wrong.

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 09:07 AM

QUOTE (newuser @ Aug 20 2006, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you check version # of the trial you will notice that is an older version than the latest that supports x64, but i could be wrong.



Thanx you are quite right I checked it out the trial is 4212.
4327 is the one that supports XP 64

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 10:26 AM

Try to manually remove Alcohol and reinstall it again:

Delete the Alcohol's installation folder, the sptd.sys, sptdxxxx.sys and vaxscsi.sys files in your Windows\System32\Drivers folder and all the relative keys from your registry( search it using the words "vaxscsi" and "sptd" as keywords). When you have finished reboot and try to install Alcohol again.
If you can't delete any keys check their permisions for them and their subkeys- the Administrators must have Full Control, if they don't give it to them and then try to delete the key. Some of this keys have subkeys that can be seen and deleted only after a reboot- then you'll be able to change the permisions and delete them and their parent keys.
If after this procedure you still can't install Alcohol try to wipe every key related to it from the registry searching it with "Alcohol" as keyword, reboot and try again.

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (geneduffy @ Aug 20 2006, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (newuser @ Aug 20 2006, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

if you check version # of the trial you will notice that is an older version than the latest that supports x64, but i could be wrong.



Thanx you are quite right I checked it out the trial is 4212.
4327 is the one that supports XP 64

Thanks for your replies and thinking along.

If I go to the download page and select the 'Download' icon in front of "Download from Free Downloads - Fast (1.9.5.4327) All Windows operating systems", I am directed to an free-downloads page that offers version 1.9.5.4212. And there is no other option available.

So if you are right, then it would mean that I cannot try the program on an x64 OS. And I am not that stupid to buy shareware without trying it. I have just tried the software on the W32 platform and it works fine. I do like the software but as I am working with the x64 version 95% of the time, it is useless for me unless I get an working installation on the x64 platform.

I guess I have to wait until version 4327 becomes available.

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Charalambos @ Aug 20 2006, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Try to manually remove Alcohol and reinstall it again:

Delete the Alcohol's installation folder, the sptd.sys, sptdxxxx.sys and vaxscsi.sys files in your Windows\System32\Drivers folder and all the relative keys from your registry( search it using the words "vaxscsi" and "sptd" as keywords). When you have finished reboot and try to install Alcohol again.
If you can't delete any keys check their permisions for them and their subkeys- the Administrators must have Full Control, if they don't give it to them and then try to delete the key. Some of this keys have subkeys that can be seen and deleted only after a reboot- then you'll be able to change the permisions and delete them and their parent keys.
If after this procedure you still can't install Alcohol try to wipe every key related to it from the registry searching it with "Alcohol" as keyword, reboot and try again.

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Nah, to UNINSTALL something you have to INSTALL it first... and THAT is the problem. There is no installation folder and the three files you mentioned do not exist. I didn't tried the registry, but I don't think those files are registered yet.

#11 Jito463

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 02:38 PM

Regarding x64 compatibility, Alcohol has supported x64 since version 1.9.5.3823. So yes, version 1.9.5.4212 supports x64 as well.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 11:43 AM

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Nah, to UNINSTALL something you have to INSTALL it first... and THAT is the problem. There is no installation folder and the three files you mentioned do not exist. I didn't tried the registry, but I don't think those files are registered yet.


Have a look at the registry in case thre is something. By the way, do you have the AMD Dual Core optimizer installed in any case( since you have an AMD X2 proccessor)? If yes then that is your problem: It is not compatible with Alcohol.
Sorry, it is geneduffy that has the AMD X2, yet please have a look at the registry.

Edited by Charalambos, 21 August 2006 - 11:46 AM.


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Posted 21 August 2006 - 02:19 PM

QUOTE (Charalambos @ Aug 21 2006, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Nah, to UNINSTALL something you have to INSTALL it first... and THAT is the problem. There is no installation folder and the three files you mentioned do not exist. I didn't tried the registry, but I don't think those files are registered yet.


Have a look at the registry in case thre is something. By the way, do you have the AMD Dual Core optimizer installed in any case( since you have an AMD X2 proccessor)? If yes then that is your problem: It is not compatible with Alcohol.
Sorry, it is geneduffy that has the AMD X2, yet please have a look at the registry.

Hi again.

I do not have an AMD X2, just a plain single core AMD64.

Regarding the registry, I removed all the SPTD keys I could find and their Cfg-subkeys. The effect was that after a reboot my profile could not be loaded. After logging of the temporary profile and logging on again, the profile was restored and the setup started again. But unfortunately it asked for a reboot again. So I checked the registry and found that the sptd keys were restored. And not only that, they also have an 'security' and an 'enum' subkey.

I could not find any vaxscsi keys at all.

So this did not help and I thought that if the SPTD keys prevent Alcohol to be installed and those keys are restored by Windows upon reboot... maybe I am able to install Alcohol between removing those keys and the reboot. But alas, I got a message from the SPTD setup saying: "Failed to oped service key." (no I did not make a typo).

My guess is that Alcohol is x64 compatible, but SPTD isn't.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 02:29 PM

QUOTE (RiDo(78) @ Aug 21 2006, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My guess is that Alcohol is x64 compatible, but SPTD isn't.


Looks like I was right. The trial-version of Alcohol is shipped with v. 1.24 of SPTD. Thanks to google I found this topic here: http://forum.alcohol...showtopic=23803

Now I installed v. 1.25 and I got a message: "You have to restart for the changes to take effect" and after the reboot I could install Alcohol.

Thanks anyone for helping me with this issue. Especially Charalambos for pointing me into the right direction.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 04:14 PM

You probably had the MS Kernel patch installed which broke compatibility with v1.24 of SPTD. v1.25 fixed the compatiibility issue. I, of all people, should have thought to mention that sooner. I'm glad you got it sorted out, though.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:29 AM

QUOTE (Jito463 @ Aug 21 2006, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You probably had the MS Kernel patch installed which broke compatibility with v1.24 of SPTD. v1.25 fixed the compatiibility issue. I, of all people, should have thought to mention that sooner. I'm glad you got it sorted out, though.

No problem. It just took a bit longer. The only thing is that I do not trust Alcohol-soft very much now. IMHO you should always provide the newer versions of your software. Especially if you know that an older version can cause problems. So I hope the software keeps running flawlessly.

And yes, I probably have the Kernel patch installed, as I keep my Windows patchlevels up to date. I already said that in the start-post. But I provided so much info (a huge system-report) that I am not surprised you missed that.

Thanks anyway.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 01:31 PM

The latest version of Alcohol (1.9.5.4327) does include the SPTD 1.25 installer. Unfortunately, there was a glitch and the trial version download server was displaying 1.9.5.4212 instead. That has since been corrected.




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