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#1 RedandBlack

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 06:44 PM

When I try to use the Image Burning Wizard, I select the Playstation option, i don't have a Burn Speed of 4X, which is best for PSX games. When I go to the recording options and select playstation, I can select 4X as the maximum speed, but it automatically goes to 8X. Any ideas of suggestions?

My computer is a Dell XPS M140

My CD/DVD Burner: _NEC DVD +-RW ND-6650A
Max Write Speed: 24X

Thanks in advance!

#2 Jito463

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 07:12 PM

Please read this stickied topic. Thanks.

http://forum.alcohol...showtopic=23848

#3 zamiel

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 09:13 PM

Speed is dictated by the type of media you are using and the firmware your drive is currently running. Are you able to burn at slower speeds in other programs?

#4 RedandBlack

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 10:29 PM

Yeah. If I click properties of the drive under My Computer, and go to the recording tab, I can select 4X as the fastest the drive records. I don't know if this only effects the Windows CD Making system or everything, but it is an option regardless. Even after selecting 4X as the fasted speed it will record, Alcohol still only shows 24X, 16X and 8X.

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 12:56 AM

Alcohol uses its own Device Control Interface when writing discs. You could try changing the default control interface in Alcohol's options to the Windows one to see if your changes to the recording tab kick in.

#6 RedandBlack

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 03:09 PM

No i'm afraid that didn't work either. I tried each option under the control interface too.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 02:01 AM

You said that you changed the max speed to 4x in Windows, but it was unclear if you have been able to write at 4x in Windows or another program such as Nero?

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 06:46 AM

True, some burning software will lie about their true speed. There's a registry hack for Nero, for example, that enables showing the actual burning speed, instead of the selected burning speed. So just because you could select 4x, doesn't necessarily mean that it actually burns at 4x. The burning speed options are limited by firmware and media. It's possible that Alcohol's writing engine may not be 100% compatible with your drive, and hence why you can only select 8x, but it's also possible that your drive - with that media - will only actually write a minimum of 8x, and the other burning software is effectively "lying" to you.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 09:13 AM

I have the same drive (NEC ND-6650A) on my laptop and Alcohol gives these choises for the burning speed at the begining( before inserting any media): maximum, 24x, 20x, 16x, 10x, 8x and 4x. Of course things change when a media is inserted, e.g. Acohol will burn an 1-12 CDRW only at 10x, the same as with Nero.

#10 RedandBlack

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 10:17 PM

Charalambos, so does that mean you're having the same problem as me? I get all of those options before putting in a CD but I lose everything below 8X after putting a CD in.

#11 Charalambos

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 09:13 AM

This just means that the driver can't burn the CD in lower speed. You must try other brands of media and perhaps CDs of lower burning speeds.

#12 ovalbugmann

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 02:04 PM

Alcohol 120%, Version: 1.9.8 (Build 7612)
System Report was saved as the attach file"report.txt"

Describe your problem here:

Hello,

I have the trial version of Alcohol120% and will buy a product key soon, and I recently burned an .iso image to a CD-R. It took less than 3 minutes to burn. Of course with this small time it used a high burning speed - it said the average burning speed was about 40x in the after burn report. Problem is I want to burn at lower speeds; to avoid errors and because many of the discs I make will be used in a system with an old 2x CD-ROM drive, and it has trouble reading discs which are burned at a high rate. So I would like to burn my discs at about 4x-8x, my Sony CD-RW recorder burns from 4x-52x.

Anyways, My problem is I want to burn this .iso image at a lower speed and make copies of different discs - "at lower burning speeds" - but I am unable to change the speed settings anywhere in alcohol120%. Yes, I found the places in options to set this and, I set it to 4x or 8x then when I go to burn it burns at 40x?!?! Also, in the tab next to where you set the burning speed it always shows the "current burning speed" as 40x-52x, dispite my much lower burning speed setting. I've tried to set commands to windows control also - no go.

Please tell me how to use the lower burning speed settings in Alcohol120?! Do I need to buy a product key to do this?

Thanks in advance for any help,


Sincerely,

Noel Roberts (ovalbugmann in the Alcohol forums)


P.S. Yes I can burn at 4x using the WindowsXP included basic CD recording software when I set it to do so in the properties tab of the Sony drive - it is currently set to 4x -but 120% just burns it at 40x+ anyway sad.gif although I set it to record at no more than 8X. (And I know WinXP's software burns at 4x -'cause it takes 26minutes! - verses 3 minutes for Alcohol120%)

Why is this so hard to set 120% to burn lower XP - does this, as I ask it to and I have no trouble playing these discs in the old 2x drive, but I do have trouble playing Alcohols 48x burned discs in the old 2x drive.

HELP!

Please tell me how to set the Alcohol software to do this - it is not a hardware or win XP problem, because of what I just said. sad.gif

Thanks in advance for any and all help guys, I'm wondering if buying the product key willallow me to select a lower speed?

Edited by Charalambos, 02 June 2009 - 09:27 AM.
Removing System Report


#13 Charalambos

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:38 AM

You set the burning speed in the datatypes or in the Image Burning Wizard? You can and set it at 4x in the Image Burning Wizard and it burns at 40x? Can you submit a log of the burning process and a screensot with your burning settings please?
Also in the system report your drives are mentioned as not supported by Alcohol:

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*** NOT listed in Alcohol's database. Please report to development team


It may help if you send an email to support_team@alcohol-soft asking support for them.

Edited by Charalambos, 02 June 2009 - 09:39 AM.


#14 ovalbugmann

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 04:29 PM

I appreciate your offer for help and I understand you removing my double post but; Why did you remove my system report here??? - this will make it harder for others to help me, or give more helpful comments with less specific informaton about my case. unsure.gif

I have read numerous posts here with people asking for tech help and the second post is just this:

http://forum.alcohol...showtopic=23848

Not wanting to slow a responders' answer to my question I read the thread above first and then posted question WITH the required system report, as per the clear quote below:

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We require that a System Report from within Alcohol be posted before we will answer a Post. The only time that a System Report is not required is when the problem is related to Installing Alcohol.


There is no attachment system on this board, that I have available to me, so I posted it in the thread here - what else can I do to follow this proceedure then?

I don't like my posts being butchered, especially when I am just following board directions, please change thread: http://forum.alcohol...showtopic=23848 to reflect current posting steps of NOT putting a system report with a problem. Now, if these rules have changed and so that new people like me don't have to learn by making mistakes, let me know how to get my system report uploaded here for people to use to help me, ok? smile.gif

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You set the burning speed in the datatypes or in the Image Burning Wizard?


Yes, dvd and cd datatype settings are in the options tabs.

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I found the places in options to set this and, I set it to 4x or 8x then when I go to burn it burns at 40x?!?! Also, in the tab next to where you set the burning speed it always shows the "current burning speed" as 40x-52x, dispite my much lower burning speed setting.


Yes, while burning this .iso with the Image Burning Wizard, I set the speed to 8x and it still burned it at an average of 40x the post report said and took less than 3 minutes - so it definitely was not burned at 8x. The resulting disk is hard for my system to read and takes a long time to show the files in the image. It was just a Public Domain homebrew ROM set, for the Atari Jaguar CD - a data CD. smile.gif Both my internal optical drives are CD-RW/DVD-ROMS and will burn at 2x or 4x speeds with several other programs.

Yeah in the image burning wizard next to where you set the speed that information? tab said this:

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in the tab next to where you set the burning speed it always shows the "current burning speed" as 40x-
52x


OK, I will go-ahead and do another burn of this .iso soon and get the burnlog and post it here but I don't see any way to do any attachements to my posts?

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Again, thank you for the offer of help! - I really appreciate it because after this trial I WILL be purchasing the $50 120% product key, because I like this software, have heard many good things about it, and work with CDs a lot. Also, I will have to find that Alcohol 120% supported drives' list so I can pick one up to use the software fully and to be able to hopefully burn slower.

I didn't mean to double post but I was frustrated and just wanted to get an answer and thought more people would see it. I realize that it is you moderators that will likely be able to help me most, since you know the software better and are here more than others, so I really did not want to start off on the wrong foot with any problems with people here! smile.gif

Much thanks,

Noel (ovalbugmann)



#15 ovalbugmann

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 04:33 PM

QUOTE (Charalambos @ Jun 2 2009, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It may help if you send an email to support_team@alcohol-soft asking support for them.


Yeah, I contacted them and they just said what you did - that neither of my drives are supported.

This part of my first post was from the email I sent them talking about my attached system report:

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Alcohol 120%, Version: 1.9.8 (Build 7612)
System Report was saved as the attach file"report.txt"

Describe your problem here:


Now I need to find that supported drives list and buy one! - Thanks wink.gif

Edited by ovalbugmann, 02 June 2009 - 04:34 PM.


#16 Charalambos

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:21 AM

Doubleposting is just unnecessary and can be confusing. As for the system report you must submit it in order to receive support as the mentioned topic says, we remove it after examining it.
Instead of bying a new drive right now you can wait for support of your drives being added in the next version of Alcohol if you want so.




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